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WEIGHT of various guides.(?)
Posted by: Rob (---.wireless.wirefire.com)
Date: January 15, 2002 09:34AM

Does anyone know of a chart or otherwise possess the information for weight comparisons for Fuji Guides.

For example: Is alconite heavier than sic?

How much does the titatium frame reduce weight from a
stainless?

Is it better to "upgrade" frame material or ring material when
trying to reduce overal weight with price in mind?

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Re: WEIGHT of various guides.(?)
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (---.dialinx.net)
Date: January 15, 2002 09:48AM

If you want to reduce guide weight, you have to approach things from all angles. The differences in ring weights, size for size, are very slight. Frame weight can be much more than slight, and the titanium frames are the way to go. Keep in mind the percentage in overall size and weight though. Example, replacing a large set of steel framed spinning guides with the same guides in titanium frames will save more weight than replacing the same set-up in a smaller set of fly or casting guides.

I do feel the titanium frames can make a difference you can actually feel. Ring type weight savings? I'm not so sure you'll notice the actual difference in weight on the finished rod.

The biggest difference you can make however, is reducing the size of all your guides. This may or may not be possible depending on how large you need your guides to be. I do know that a spinning rod with the old standard set up versus the newer New Guide Concept set-up is night and day when comparing weight, balance and feel.

Use the fewest, smallest and lightest guides that will still do what you need to do. Guides can be too small, just as they can be too large.

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Re: WEIGHT of various guides.(?)
Posted by: Will Parham (---.nationwide.com)
Date: January 15, 2002 10:16AM

The weight difference when dealing with the same type, is small. You will need a grain scale to be able to measure it. I measured a set of guides for a fly rod one time and the Titanium SIC were 55 grain. The steel SIC were 77 grain. I have not measured the alconite guides but they should be about the same as the SIC steel. Using a particular guide (within reason) on a rod is not a cure all to save weight. Wrapping and finishing technique and assembly methods, all play a major role in the overall rod weight.

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Re: WEIGHT of various guides.(?)
Posted by: Preston Quan (---.rim.net)
Date: January 15, 2002 02:49PM

I read somewhere that the new Alconites are about 7% lighter than the SIC steel guides.

As a side question, what is a grain? and what is the conversion of grains to grams?

Preston

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Re: WEIGHT of various guides.(?)
Posted by: Sanford Hochman (---.cape.com)
Date: January 15, 2002 04:17PM

Preston,
A grain=.060 grams= 60 milligrams.
15 grains= 1.0 gram
1.0 gram (weight) = 1 milliliter (Measure).

Coversion would be simplified into the metric system.
ex: 1 grain = 60 milligrams
15 grains = 1.0 gram
60 grains = 4.0 grams
1 ounce = 480 grains = 30 grams

hope this helps a bit.
Sanford Hochman

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Re: WEIGHT of various guides.(?)
Posted by: Will Parham (---.ilm.bellsouth.net)
Date: January 15, 2002 08:03PM

Actually 1 ounce is 437.5 grain. This is, of course, only for those who are counting. A grain scale is used for reloading shells. It is very accurate and precise.

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