Hi in reading past post on spiral wraps would that surf rods or would that a wast my time . Just a thought thanks for any help this site is the BEST thanks Tom Marcel

Hi Marcel,
No, I don't think considering a spiral wrap for a surf rod is a waste of time. The concept is valid for any level wind or baitcasting type reel setup.
If you use the right guides, and do the spiral for best casting performance, I believe you could build a very good surf casting rod using the spiral wrap. I've built musky and bass type rods by the spiral method and they outcast the conventional ones.

I would arrange the guide angles to best accomodate a direct line path out to the tip. I think I posted previously some thoughts on this and you'll find also excellent ideas based on Ralph O'Quinn's modification and Don Morton's concepts. Someone else might have something more we can learn with.

Go for it.

Rich
Solyrich Custom Rods
Richard's Rod & Reel.

Marcel

Most every surf fishing set -up I have seen uses a spinning reel. A spinning rod already has the guides on the bottom side of the rod.
It would be a good idea for a king or spanish mac' pier rod! Personally I pier fish with a spinning set-up, but my son and I don't target mac's or sharks. If you are surf fishing with a baitcast or level wind try a spinning reel.

Bill Doherty

Bill,
Agree, the pier rod idea would benefit with the stability and better lifitng of a spiral wrapped rod. I do know spinning setups outnumber baitcasters for the surf, but some parts it is a preference thing. With the right reel/line combination I couldn't see why it wouldn't be worthwhile to try. I have seen some pretty awesome distance baitcasting rods for river sturgeon fishing, why not for surf?
I guess the point is, IF, one was going to use a conventional rod with a baitcaster why not use the spiral wrap. I would go also for a spinning setup, but also I can be an oddball baitcaster. I guess also for utility reasons, one may not want an exposed baitcaster in the beach sand, and for this a spinnig reel would be better??

Rich

Rich & Marcel

I agree, if you are going to use a baitcast reel, a spiral wrap rod will work very well. A spiral wrap baitcast rod will out preform a "normal" baitcast rod in every situation I am aware of. But... If Marcel has never tryed surf casting with a spinning rod and reel...

If we all had only one type rod to fish with or to build, what a boring world it would be.

Good Luck fishing and rodmaking with what ever you use!
Bill Doherty

hello i just built a 14 ft Lamiglas surf rod with the spiral wraps the guy i built it for said it out performs any bait casting reel typ surf rod he has ever used.i prefer a spinning rod my self.regards john

hello i lost my xcite at home email i typed in my email address and i dont think it put it in right my e mail is johnbratton@attbi.com.