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Test casting blunder
Posted by: Mark Brown (---.tic.va.gov)
Date: January 05, 2018 11:02AM

Messed up pretty good. I had guides taped in place for 9'6 surf rod. Went out last week for test casting 2 oz sinker. First cast at 75% of maximum think a knot / tangle came out of the reel and every single guide I had in place popped off the blank . Tip broke at the brace (?if thats whats called), recovered all but 2 guides. Thankfully blank is okay. Now the reel I used didn't have fresh line at all and wasn't the reel I planned on using for the build (was waiting for line to come in for the new reel but couldn't resist the urge to cast) .

Now that this happened I know I can do a few things better starting with trying to ensure there are no tangles and easing into it. My question now becomes how hard are you guys test casting / do you hold back or just let it loose? And how well do you tape the guides. I had single layer masking tape. All previously worked fine on lighter rods.

Thanks, Mark

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Re: Test casting blunder
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 05, 2018 11:07AM

When test casting heavier rods with heavier weights, you need to make sure you have very secure tape wraps, usually three or even four layers. I have used strapping tape on heavy surf rods, although this requires you to slice the tape off with a razor blade and clean up a little tape residue from the guide feet.

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Re: Test casting blunder
Posted by: Lance Schreckenbach (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: January 05, 2018 01:31PM

Zip ties and tape combo. Start out easy to make sure no knots or tangles then get down on it.

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Re: Test casting blunder
Posted by: Mark Hahn (---.83.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)
Date: January 05, 2018 02:31PM

Tom put it best. 3 or 4 on the heavy rods as they bear a greater load. My first cast is about 25%, just to make sure there are no obvious problems like you experienced. My second cast is at 50% and I check the line flow and make any adjustments. Third cast is about 75%, checking for line flow and making adjustments. This normally cures most of the problems. Then I make three full casts with all the accompanying checks. If you can't find it by this point, it's likely you were not going to.

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Re: Test casting blunder
Posted by: herb canter (70.40.72.---)
Date: January 05, 2018 02:50PM

Mark Brown Wrote:
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> Messed up pretty good. I had guides taped in place
> for 9'6 surf rod. Went out last week for test
> casting 2 oz sinker. First cast at 75% of maximum
> think a knot / tangle came out of the reel and
> every single guide I had in place popped off the
> blank . Tip broke at the brace (?if thats whats
> called), recovered all but 2 guides. Thankfully
> blank is okay. Now the reel I used didn't have
> fresh line at all and wasn't the reel I planned on
> using for the build (was waiting for line to come
> in for the new reel but couldn't resist the urge
> to cast) .
>
> Now that this happened I know I can do a few
> things better starting with trying to ensure there
> are no tangles and easing into it. My question now
> becomes how hard are you guys test casting / do
> you hold back or just let it loose? And how well
> do you tape the guides. I had single layer masking
> tape. All previously worked fine on lighter rods.
>
> Thanks, Mark


Was anybody watching ? If you had an audience i hope you told everyone that you meant for that to happen and it went exactly as you had planned , at least thats what i do .
I always wrap guides with masking tape and go 3 to 4 turns on each one . I test at full force from the start and never had a problem .

If double foot i do 3 to 4 turns of tape wrapped tight on each foot on both sides of guide , single foots just get 3 to 4 turns on the foot .

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Re: Test casting blunder
Posted by: Mark Brown (---.tic.va.gov)
Date: January 05, 2018 03:44PM

Thanks again for the great advise. All the lessons I learn from experience. Now the harder question. Anyone know if I can pick up the titanium guides with a metal detector / probably better question for another forum. anyway getting one from a friend today. they are fuji TKWAG with alconite inserts. of course no longer being sold. so really hoping I can find.
-Mark

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Re: Test casting blunder
Posted by: brian rossi (107.77.92.---)
Date: January 05, 2018 04:35PM

I had the same thing happen and had to use a metal detector also lol. My guides were steel though and I'm not sure if it will work on titanium. I always check for tangles before every cast even though it's only happened once out of hundreds of tests casts.

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Re: Test casting blunder
Posted by: Calver Skrien (196.52.21.---)
Date: January 08, 2018 05:47PM

Tom Kirkman Wrote:
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> When test casting heavier rods with heavier
> weights, you need to make sure you have very
> secure tape wraps, usually three or even four
> layers. I have used strapping tape on heavy surf
> rods, although this requires you to slice the tape
> off with a razor blade and clean up a little tape
> residue from the guide feet.
>
> ............

Hmm, I might have to take note of this for future reference.

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