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Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Gerald (Jerry) Bouyear (---.crescommwifi.com)
Date: September 06, 2017 08:08PM

What determines a up lock or down lock reel seat on a fly rod?

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Norman Miller (---.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net)
Date: September 06, 2017 09:04PM

An up locking reel seat has the moveable hood to the rear of the back reel foot, and you have to screw the nut up to lock the reel in place. A down locking reel seat has the moveable hood in front of the reel foot and you have to screw the nut down to lock the reel in place.
Norm

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: September 06, 2017 11:39PM

With a up locking seat the reel sits further from the butt. With a down locking seat the reel sits closer to the butt.
Typically a fresh water seat is down locking. A saltwater is up locking to facilitate putting the butt in your belly.
herb

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Gerald (Jerry) Bouyear (---.crescommwifi.com)
Date: September 07, 2017 01:32AM

I should have said this another way, when you build a fly rod what determines if you use a up lock or down lock reel seat, or is this personal preferance.

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Gerald (Jerry) Bouyear (---.crescommwifi.com)
Date: September 07, 2017 01:34AM

so it has nothing to do with balance or preformance

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Gerald (Jerry) Bouyear (---.crescommwifi.com)
Date: September 07, 2017 01:34AM

so it has nothing to do with balance or preformance

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Donald La Mar (---.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net)
Date: September 07, 2017 07:36AM

Jerry

It is personal preference and other considerations. An up locking seat moves the reel forward and does change balance a bit. The grip for an up locking seat is usually inlet to accept the seat's hood which in turn means not all grip styles (half Wells or really skinny cigar or torpedo grips for example) will easily accommodate the reel seat hood inlet. Up locking seats work with fighting butts for heavier rods - 6 weights and above - while down locking seats do not.

Any rod "performance" impact is minimal. Balance point (without defining balance point) is impacted and is another of those highly personal preference items impacting casting feel but not rod action.

My preference favors down locking seats for 2 thru 5 weight rods and up locking seats for 6 weight and greater. However, I have aging 8 weight Winston with no fighting butt and down locking seat that casts like a dream an is a go to rod for black bass. Life's just full of exceptions to general rules.

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Gerald (Jerry) Bouyear (---.crescommwifi.com)
Date: September 07, 2017 11:40AM

Thanks Donald this was a great help

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: David Miller (---.pools.spcsdns.net)
Date: September 07, 2017 01:20PM

I am building a 8'6" 7 weight fiberglass in down locking with fighting butt, it is just an uplocker reversed with an inlet butt. I have even seen small fighting butts glued to flat round down locking seats. Heavier and longer blanks benefit more with a downlocker for balance and many grips that start off skinny near the butt like cigar,Fenwick and Ritz.It comes mainly down to personal preference.I have been wondering lately if a Czech nymph rod would do well with a downlocking reel seat.

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: September 09, 2017 08:50PM

One other factor in your choice. If you have tendency to stand your rod up against something while fishing, a downlocking seat can put the reel in the dirt.

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Re: Fly rod reel seat
Posted by: Bill Sidney (---.gci.net)
Date: September 09, 2017 11:52PM

Phil has the best reason I think, I vote for the up locking in all cases

William Sidney
AK

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