I had a home made rod holder a few years back,to do a static test , but the thing was it always turned my rod when i put more weight to bend the rod, just wondering if there is a better solution.

Yes there is; it's called a wife. Sort of pricy and high maintenance.

Yea LaMar, and to much static!Haha

My way is kinda crude but effective...
I took 2 pieces of 2x4, each about a foot long and routered a 1"x1" grove into them. I padded the grooves with some scrap EVA leftovers and use the wood blocks to sandwich the rod grip. I clamp the rod inside the blocks and then to an old "Bean Bag" game goal that the kids don't play with anymore. The 45* face of the goal holds the rod on a nice angle...

Kinda samething here, i took some 1x4 boards and cut them to triangle, 45 degree. Then took a plastic tube and put some foam in it, glued it to the wood triangles ,cut slits in the foam to put rod in. But i think the eod will still turn when i put weight on the rod when loading it. But will have try it out to make sure. Then figure out how to secure the rod in the tube.

This will start something.
Build the rod on the spine and it wont do that.
and I have found that that can happen even with multi piece rods
I built a 10w awhile back and got it off spine and when a 30lb.+ rock fish jumps on, the rod twists in my hand.
I have wondered about casting accuracy, flying a little left or right, but never tested that.

Curt

When static load testing I run a line from the reel through the taped on guides and tip top, and attach a light weight which hangs from the tip. I tie a second line to the tip top and this line is then tied to the load producing weight. When loaded the rod will bend naturally unencumbered by the guides which stay put and allow you to easily adjust the guides by looking at the line passing through them. I call it the two line static test and is briefly outlined in the static test article in the library. [www.rodbuilding.org]
Norm

P S I use a rod holder with bearings built into the holder

Curt

Even if you spine the blank, when you load the blank with the line running through the guides, the load will torque the rod and cause it to turn so the guides are underneath. The major reason people do a spiral wrap is to prevent this from happening.

curtis drumm Wrote:
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> This will start something.
> Build the rod on the spine and it wont do that.
> and I have found that that can happen even with
> multi piece rods
> I built a 10w awhile back and got it off spine
> and when a 30lb.+ rock fish jumps on, the rod
> twists in my hand.
> I have wondered about casting accuracy, flying a
> little left or right, but never tested that.
>
> Curt

It will do that once you put guides on it, if it's a casting rod with guides on top. Put the guides on the bottom and it won't do that, no matter where you orient the spine. Guide orientation determines if a rod will twist or not. It has nothing to do with spine.

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Norman Miller Wrote:
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> When static load testing I run a line from the
> reel through the taped on guides and tip top, and
> attach a light weight which hangs from the tip. I
> tie a second line to the tip top and this line is
> then tied to the load producing weight. When
> loaded the rod will bend naturally unencumbered by
> the guides which stay put and allow you to easily
> adjust the guides by looking at the line passing
> through them. I call it the two line static test
> and is briefly outlined in the static test article
> in the library.
> [www.rodbuilding.org]
> l
> Norm

I used this method on the last rod I built. It was much easier for me to adjust my guide spacing.

Lorenzo,
Pretty easy solution.
Just turn the rod over so that the reel and the guides are on the bottom of the rod.

No, loading the rod won't be exactly as it will be in use, but you will be able to get a good idea as to the line flow and the loading of the blank.

I assume that you are talking about a casting rod.

Of course in the case of a spinning rod, the reel and guides are already on the bottom so that they will not twist.

When I load a casting rod, I just put the tip of the rod on the ceiling and load the rod by putting increased pressure on the tip. I have the line running through the guides, and it is easy and simple to check the line flow, guide size and correct number of guides by this method.

Take care

Thanks for all the input, you all have a good one.

By the way, how about the butt guide, how should the line look going through the butt guide on the load test? Should it just touch the top of the butt guide ot lower?

the guides are on the bottom of a fly rod and it turns under load.

It seems that people are forgetting physics.
Therefore the spine does have an affect!

Curt

Curt, are you saying that under load on a fly rod built not on spine, it will try to turn guides up? Not possible as the load is on the bottom!

Phil is correct. If the guides are on the bottom of the rod, you can't apply load from beneath the rod and think it's going to rotate upward. Impossible. And this holds true regardless of where you orient the spine.

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I have a very crude but effective rod holder for static load testing. A piece of pvc pipe, lined with pipe insulation, duct taped to one leg of my bench. Never had a rod rotate while testing.

No of corse not, but it will turn about 5 to 7 degrees, this is on a 12 wt. rod,have only built up to 7wts. I have not nottised this effect, never built a 12w before.
but the affect still exists. My gess I'm shure is the heaver the rod the more pronounced the affect.

Curt