Over the weekend I CCS measured some rod blanks that I have to build and also a factory rod.Here is the data.

Liberty P703 8-14lb Intrinsic power 285 grams Action angle 65
Seeker SP703 IP 240g AA 69
Inshore blem blank 10-17lb trim to 6'9"IP 630 AA 73
Inshore blem 10-20lb trim to 7'1" IP 1040g AA 70
High mod blem 7''9" IP 840g AA 65

Here is a rod that I have used for a long time that I need to replace the cork and fix the loose spinning seat.

Falcon 6'6" open hook special 8-12lb IP 415 AA 65

The IP rods I've checked have been usually close to 65 degrees, rods described as "fast," usually are around 70-75. I'd say the 70 and 73 AA rods would be good for 1/2 oz (or even heavier) bass jigs. Maybe the 70 is a little too powerful, should be able to handle what to me would be "really big stuff," both fish and lures.

The comparisons are easy to make with this data.

The most powerful is the Inshore blem 10-20lb trim to 7'1" IP 1040g AA 70

The fastest action is Inshore blem blank 10-17lb trim to 6'9"IP 630 AA 73

So on and so forth.

If you want to mimic the Falcon 6'6" open hook special 8-12lb IP 415 AA 65 then you'd want to find a blank that most closely matches the same specs, including length and weight.

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I should of said that I wanted to compare other CCS measures of the Liberty P703 just to vetify as well as compare other manufactures rods with same line rating. I have quickly realized that the line rating given by the manufacture doesn't say much when comparing actual power to another manufacture.

Is an Action Angle over 75 considered extra fast and what AA is considered a true moderate and sllow?

The Liberty P703 is labeled fast but at a AA of 65 that would be more mod fast which for a popping rod I prefer. I am hoping this rod will make a great speckled trout rod to use in open water. I am using the Airwave guide set to keep it light and durable.

I think the Inshore 6'9" will fill the bill that I wanted a rod faster and more power than my Falcon when targeting red drum in canals with jigs and spinnerbaits with a baitcaster.

I am thinking the 7'1" inshore will be good for pier jigging with spinning reel casting gotchas and 1 oz zig jigs .

Well, that's like asking if an 80F temperature is considered "hot." That's purely subjective.

The CCS sought to rid the craft of subjective terms like "fast." You simply use the numbers to determine if one blank is faster or slower than another. In other words, AA doesn't translate to those terms - the AA are relative and comparative numbers.

So take measurements of your Falcon and use those for comparative purposes against the other blanks you have.

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Although I agree with Tom, it’s obvious that blank/rod’s actions will continue to be specified by fast, moderate or slow and it can be helpful to have a rough translation between AA and the subjective categorizations. These are the conversions based on my subjective opinion/perception:

<59 deg=slow; 50-63 deg=moderate; 63-66 deg=mod/fast; 66-70=fast; >70 X-fast

I also have a conversion from “cents” to the “power/lure weight range” categorization (light to heavy), also based on my opinion/perception, which may not be consistent with other sources.

The terminology for Power and/or Action is relative…much like “hot” or “cold”, so Power and AA measurements provide specificity, much like a scale or thermometer.

Thanks you all for the info.

Now it's wishful thinking that all manufactures make use of CCS measuring. I did see that Pac Bay has them available for their Quickline blanks which is awesome.

I failed to note that the above stated conversion is based on the RDA (or “Big Picture”) system of measuring AA (reel seat to rod tip), as opposed to the method defined in CCS (overall length). There is a marked difference in AA measurements between the two methods. I.E. A rod measured using the RDA will be 5 to 6 degrees less than if measured using the overall length of CCS.

FWIW, this is what I previously used (CCS) for the conversion of a blank/rod’s angle to the generic terminology:
<64 deg = slow; 64-68 deg = moderate; 68-71 deg = moderate/fast; 71-75 deg = fast; 75> deg = X-fast



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2017 08:57AM by jim spooner.