Thoughts on the KR concept (high frame small ring). I'm curious on how well these things hold up durability whise? What do you guys think would be best for braid in the 15 to 17# range this concept or NGC concept?

There is no question in my mind that the KR concept is the best. Been using it since it came out and I am not going back. The Fuji KR guides are as tough as any other guide I have used, and had not had any major issues with them.
Norm

In my humble, newbie opinion, Fuji wrote the book everyone else reads!

Mark Talmo
FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE.

How about the k series regular ring guides are those nice to?

The high framed guide has been around for a very long time, braided lines also, long before mono. Gel spun superlines since the early 90's, all's well and always has been. The KR guides seem to have decreased tangles and wind knots which allows us to use even smaller guides and a shorter choke guide distances with the superlines with no ill effects. That said people in the business knew there was room for improvement in the NGC with the superlines long before Fuji came out with the KR guides.



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The groove added to the frame that gives more surface area to glue the ring on has been the improvement (Deep-Pressed) for Fuji. This has made the ring more reliable in the frame and not as prone to pop out. Actually Kigan may have been the first to do this with the Drawing press frame and later with the Burring press frame. This is debatable because Fuji claims to have done it first, whatever it is it is a good thing.

I've never had one fail, and they perform great. Go to the Fuji catalog at Anglers Resource link in the left margin and find the section on the recommended groups for KLH.

They may not fit into some boat rod tubes or travel tubes, so if that is important, check it out in advance.

Norman Miller Wrote:
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> There is no question in my mind that the KR
> concept is the best. Been using it since it came
> out and I am not going back. The Fuji KR guides
> are as tough as any other guide I have used, and
> had not had any major issues with them.
> Norm

Ditto!

Don Campbell
don@sensorfishingrods.com

Item 1: Fuji developed the "drawing pressed" frame in 1995 with the HNSG, followed shortly by MN and LN frames, both "Drawing Pressed". Kigan, like everyone else (as Mark points out) is "reading the book that Fuji wrote"

Item 2: The KR Concept was originally introduced by Fuji as a "braided line concept", with research centered on the limp qualities and narrow diameters of braid which made it ideal for control through smaller rings. Problem was the frames for ring sizes suitable for braid were too low - hence the development of the KL-H high frame and the birth of the KR Concept.

Item 3: KR Concept has limits (consider the original basis for the KR). Above approximately 17lb mono or fluorocarbon, or with reel sizes above approximately a 6000, NGC is usually a better choice. Plenty of heavy rods with big reels are built with KR Concept but personally, I default back to NGC above 14-pound mono and/or a 5000 series reel unless other "strange" things are going on. Forcing KR onto larger reels and stiffer line narrows the sweet spot and makes set-up very meticulous, usually requiring a dedicated reel and line.

Jim,
You are always a certified wealth of knowledge. Thank you!

Mark Talmo
FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE.