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Permagloss
Posted by: Trace Butkovich (107.77.97.---)
Date: January 04, 2017 09:46PM

What are your guys thoughts on using permagloss on thread instead of epoxy? If I were to enough coats could I get a high build like epoxy?

Thanks Trace

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 04, 2017 09:56PM

It will take about 5 to 6 coats to build much depth and even then will not look the same as epoxy. On the other hand, it is harder yet more flexible than epoxy and will never yellow.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Trace Butkovich (107.77.97.---)
Date: January 04, 2017 10:05PM

when you say looks different does that mean like waves and lumps or a different shine? Is this one of those deals that I'd just have to do some testing to see what it looks like?

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 04, 2017 10:20PM

It's called an "eggshell" finish. Not lumpy, but not smooth like epoxy. A "tighter" textured look.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Trace Butkovich (107.77.97.---)
Date: January 04, 2017 11:23PM

Do a lot of people use it? From what it sounds like it would be a hard one to beat! I think Ill buy a bottle and do some test coats is there any certain techniques to applying it or is it about the same as epoxy? I was looking through the search bar but mostly it sounded like people use it on handles and refinishing blanks.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 04, 2017 11:54PM

It just brushes onto the wraps .Not likely you'll need to rotate it. Will set in just a few minutes.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Capt. Michael Harmon (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 05, 2017 12:08AM

It can be used to coat metallic thread wraps before coating with epoxy. I think it makes the color pop. Make sure you only pour what you need and make sure the cap is screwed tight. Follow directions on bottle for best results. Great product.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Ray Zarychta (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: January 05, 2017 08:04AM

Use in a well ventilated area, has a strong but not necessarily unpleasant odor. Other family members might object.

Ray Zarychta
Glastonbury, CT

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Trace Butkovich (107.77.97.---)
Date: January 05, 2017 09:17AM

How does the cold effect it?

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (172.56.42.---)
Date: January 05, 2017 09:48AM

Cold doesn't affect it, at least the stuff I've used it in, cures by interaction with water vapor in the air, so don't leave it open, or you'll have a brick in a bottle. Proper way to store that makes the stuff last for years is all in the search function many times.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/05/2017 09:58AM by Spencer Phipps.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Norman Miller (---.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net)
Date: January 05, 2017 09:54AM

Permagloss requires humidity in the air to set. So if you are in a cold climate your indoor humidity may be quite low and thus it may take a little longer for it to set. With normal humidity and temperatures conditions it sets up within a few minutes. With cooler and lower humidity conditions it will take a little longer. Once it has hardened it is very tough and durable and basically unaffected by heat or cold,
Norm

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Chuck Mills (---.grenergy.com)
Date: January 05, 2017 01:21PM

Wipe the bottle top clean and keep it in the fridge or you will be unpleasantly surprised the next time you try to use it. On a humid day it cures right now, so be very quick.

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That's sort of the whole point." - Thomas McGuane

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: David Miller (---.pools.spcsdns.net)
Date: January 05, 2017 02:22PM

I used Permagloss on my Rod Geeks xcomp neon green blank using black thread in size A and it turned out nice. I wanted something tough and muted because the neon green is bold enough. I put 3 coats on and it is certainly usable but I still want to use about 2 more coats just give it a little more depth. The only downside I see in using it is if the guides need replacing down the road it will more a little more difficult to remove vs epoxy.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Donald R Campbell (---.socal.res.rr.com)
Date: January 05, 2017 02:43PM

Trace,

If you buy a bottle of Perma Gloss pour out only what you are going to use, (a small amount as it goes a long way), then keep the bottle in the refrigerator. I have had a bottle for over a year and a half and it is still great.

As far as using it entirety on the wraps it will build up a thick coat, (I've used 7 -8 coats), but it won't be a glossy as epoxy. Like mentioned about it is pretty much bullet proof, tough as nails and doesn't yellow.

I normally will apply two coats of Perma Gloss to all my wraps, let it dry overnight and then apply a coat of epoxy. I love the way it penetrates the threads and fills in around the guide feet and it will really make your finished wraps pop!

Don Campbell
don@sensorfishingrods.com

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.97.252.156.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
Date: January 05, 2017 03:02PM

Once opened you may want to consider recapping it tightly and storing it upside down in a baby food or some such jar, (in case of leakage) thus keeping the air trapped at the bottom of the bottle.

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