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Re: Brand spanking new to rod building, and I have questions
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: November 09, 2016 06:45PM
Anton, you have made two responses that demonstrate an intolerant attitude! As more than one has said your original post was not clear. Some of the respondents are very respected long timers on this forum. You are getting off on the wrong foot.
We all like to help those who want and respect the input. If one expects "my way, or the highway" it may be a long road. Re: Brand spanking new to rod building, and I have questions
Posted by:
Chuck Mills
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Date: November 10, 2016 09:58AM
When I read this statement it sure sounded to me like you were eventually planning on selling rods - "In case any of you are wondering if I intend on trying to sell rods right out the gate, the answer is no. I will provide a couple demo rods to fellow fishermen that I know, and have them field test rods to ensure I am actually building rods suitable for use and also I will solicit improvements from the chosen individuals who used and abused the rods."
"I am interested in finding out about absolute necessities as far as tools and materials: e.g. 2-part epoxy, 9 rpm rod turning motor, ...." Absolute necessities? Well. all you really need is a cardboard box with a "V" slot on two sides, a small bowl or cup to put your spool of thread in, and a heavy book for thread tension (open the book, lay the thread in, close the book). You can turn the rod by hand after you apply your 2-part finishing epoxy. Oh - and a razor blade to cut thread. "What are things/tools/materials that are all hype and have little impact on building rods successfully?" I'm not sure how to answer this. I'd say a laser guide alignment tool would fit in the hype category. Tom Kirkman's book - "Rod-Building Guide" (and this is his website...FYI) would be a good place to start. You can get some good info on guides and spacing at [www.anglersresource.net], the link is on the left on this web page. Jim Ising (the first gentleman that tried to assist) is the Marketing Director there. Like Phil said, there are some very respected long timers here with many, many years of experience. As Lynn mentioned, the search function is a great way to start. Then, if something is still unclear, you can post a specific question. The truth is, there is no substitute for experience. I'd recommend getting a couple cheap blanks and spend some time practice wrapping guides. When you figure that out you can try some inlays and trim bands. Click on the LIBRARY button to see a tutorial on that by Tom. Start slow, have fun. Its a hobby. You'll save so much money by making your own rods (myth). ;) _________________________________________ "Angling is extremely time consuming. That's sort of the whole point." - Thomas McGuane Re: Brand spanking new to rod building, and I have questions
Posted by:
John Cates
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Date: November 10, 2016 10:21AM
Anton
If you are still out there and want to talk to someone, give us a call. 512-858-7742 Ask for John or Roger, we would be happy to talk to you. Flex Coat Company Professional Rod Building Supplies www.flexcoat.com Re: Brand spanking new to rod building, and I have questions
Posted by:
Donald R Campbell
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Date: November 12, 2016 01:32PM
roger wilson Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Anton, > I wrapped one rod by hand. > > I am an engineer by trade. > > I said that is why we were given us a mind to > reduce manual effort. As a result, I started on > my quest of making power wrappers of various > sorts. > > After about a dozen different wrappers over the > years, I finally have one that I am very happy > with. All of the previous wrappers worked, just > some worked better. > > Same thing true of dryers. > > Because I do other things in the shop beside wrap > rods, all of the building tools break down and > store in small spaces. > > After the many rods that I have built over the > years, the actual tools that I use is really a > small number. > > --------------------------- > Exacto knife - supply of blades. > Fly tying scissors that I use to trim thread. I > just find that a scissors work much better than a > razor blade for myself. > A few different scissors that I use for trimming > and cutting different things during the building > process. > I few sharpened picks that I use for a wrapping > aid to move thread and to assist when tying off > thread. > Tweezers to deal with small objects > A few different sized needle nose pliers > > Soap to wash hands. Frequent washing of hands > work well to eliminate hand debris and oil that > end up on the rod being built. > > 5 minute epoxy. > 15 minute epoxy. > 30 minute epoxy. > > Tite bond III wood glue > > Elmers light oak wood filler to fill voids in > cork. > > Sand paper - grit sizes 100, 150, 220, 320, 400 - > for shaping and sanding cork when creating cork > grips. > > Alcohol for various cleaning purposes. > > I prefer to use an alcohol lamp for heating tip > cement for tip application. I also use the lamp > to shrink the thread and melt the tag ends of > thread. > > If you use pre made grips, you will minimize the > need for a wood lathe and the associated turning > tools. However, if you do decide to make grips > from cork, the use of a small wood working lathe > makes the job a lot easier. > > For myself, I much prefer the use of a power > wrapper, as well as a good dryer. > > ------------------------------------------- > For many years I used a simple power wrapper with > a power head mounted on a wooden board with a slot > routed down the middle to hold the rod rests. A > thread unit with an arm and tension device on the > arm took care of the thread needs. > The thread unit simply rests against the back of > the wrapper base board and slides along the back > of the board. I made the rod rests from aluminum > bar stock and pulleys made of skate board ball > bearings with O rings on the outside of the > bearings. > > [www.rodbuilding.org] > /photo/18627/title/swing-arm-halogen-light-for-wra > pping/cat/508 > > [www.rodbuilding.org] > /photo/16330/title/binders-for-guide-attachment-fo > r-ice-rod-1/cat/500 > > [www.rodbuilding.org] > /photo/14484/title/thread-tensioner-using-simple-s > pring-loaded-disks/cat/508 > > ------------------------------------------ > Really good lighting is necessary to do a good job > of wrapping rods. > I like to use a head band mounted magnifier of > 2.5x power to be able to better see the individual > wraps of the thread. > > Good luck and enjoy. AS Always..."Right On Roger"! Don Campbell don@sensorfishingrods.com Re: Brand spanking new to rod building, and I have questions
Posted by:
Mark Talmo
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Date: November 12, 2016 10:59PM
Anton,
I, also, am rather new to rod building. There is a wealth of information available on this site, and while all responses to your questions deserve attention, pay close attention to the veterans of the site; Tom K., Roger W., Jim I., Norman M., Phil E., Michael H., and others I hope I did not offend by omitting. They will all reduce your learning time if you remain open-minded, as they have done for me. While I may be considered the “Habitual-Over-Thinker” of this site, they have ALWAYS come through for me in spite thereof. Mark Talmo FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE. Re: Brand spanking new to rod building, and I have questions
Posted by:
Mark Talmo
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Date: November 13, 2016 02:05AM
Anton,
While rather new to rod building, I have shortened the learning time immensely with the gracious input and assistance of many within this forum. With the proper attitude, anyone could similarly benefit as well. Mark Talmo FISHING IS NOT AN ESCAPE FROM LIFE BUT RATHER A DEEPER IMMERSION INTO IT!!! BUILDING YOUR OWN SIMPLY ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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