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Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: Marc Morrone (---.dsl.airstreamcomm.net)
Date: January 31, 2016 12:51PM

Anyone run single foot ceramics on fly rods? Any reason you liked or didn't like them?

Thanks - Marc

Keep it simple - that's all I can handle!

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Re: Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: Terje Bendiksby (---.89-10-248.nextgentel.com)
Date: January 31, 2016 03:30PM

I have used fuji tlsg . Pros: Silent when casting and retrieving, do not think they ad any weight. Makes the the line lasting longer. Less heat on the guides when fighting the big one. Cons they are little soft
and more prone to be bent. Smaller diameter than snake guides , a disadvantage if you get a tangled line.

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Re: Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 31, 2016 06:39PM

I used them for years, on hundreds of rods. They certainly offer some definite benefits. Some, depending on the brand, type and size, can add a little more weight that you'd like to see on lighter line weight fly rods, which will reduce rod speed a bit. But if you're wondering if folks use them on fly rods, then yes, certainly and legions for decades now.

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Re: Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: gary Marquardt (141.211.151.---)
Date: January 31, 2016 06:40PM

I've used Fuji Alconites on a 9' 8wt Carp rod. I used them because i knew I would be into the backing many times and was worried about wear. I don't think I would use them if I was fishing in weather where there would be ice. snakes are easier to clear.

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Re: Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: P. Wayne Hart (---.cpe.citywest.ca)
Date: January 31, 2016 08:04PM

Snake guides seem to allow knots to pass though with less interference than a single foot. Spey lines with multiple loop to loop connections may create an occasional unwanted stop during the cast. That being said, I just finished an 11 foot switch rod for personal use and used single foot guides.

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Re: Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: Bill Sidney (---.gci.net)
Date: February 01, 2016 12:05AM

Am I wrong but one of the problems with FLY rods is the knots have to pass with ease ??? Correct ? an the way you measure the guides is the out side Dimensions of the ring, if this so won't you have to go larger guides to pass the same size knots ?

William Sidney
AK

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Re: Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: February 01, 2016 10:04AM

The key is to use proper sized guides, which are the smallest that will easily pass any required knots or connections.

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Re: Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: February 01, 2016 06:10PM

I did a test using the same #10 blank. One had REC Recoil runners of size 4. The other had size 7 Fuji Ti single foot frames and SiC rings. The Rod with the recoils got 10' longer casts and felt crisper.
I also put #6 Fuji's (same model) on a #9 blank. Was not happy with results either.
I will sell you either the #6's or #7's. Both if you want. I performed the same test a few years ago with same results. Sometimes I have to be hit in the head.
Offer extended to anyone interested. 20% off list.
Herb

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Re: Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: Todd Theodore (---.cinci.res.rr.com)
Date: February 05, 2016 09:03PM

I've used them (single foot ceramics) for years and will never go back to anything else. But, I always use a titanium framed guide to keep the weight as minimal as possible. I prefer the Pac Bay Minimas. Very light, larger ring diameter and in the price range of mere mortals.
I personally don't like the Recoils. I'm pretty sure they're the lightest guide out there and they do make for a fairly crisp feeling rod. But, they make such an irritating noise that I just can't get past. It feels like vibration to me and in my head that means energy reduction. Probably not. Maybe just in my head. And I never saw any noticeable increase in distance.
The hard chromed rings on the Minimas allow for excellent line flow and my rods just feel smoother and more effortless to cast. Even if the guides do weigh a bit more, I know my line speed is increased and the overall efficiency of the rod is better. Plus, with the fast action blanks that are being produced today, the overall dampening seems minimal.
But, to each his own and again, that's the beauty of rod building. Give it a try and see if you like it.

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Re: Single Foot Ceramics on Fly Rods
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: February 06, 2016 07:56AM

Like I said. I will sell them to anyone who wants them at a 20% discount. BTW - the feet are prepped.
Herb

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