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Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
Cameron Johnson
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Date: September 04, 2015 02:40PM
Hey guys so I am hoping someone can help me out with this blank. I do not have a way to get my hands on it. I was thinking about going with another company for this rod, but I also want opinions on this blank. I am looking for a rod to throw texas rigs into laydowns. The weight is 3/16 with usually 7inch plastics. I have the 7'2 M Immortal, but this amount of weight does not load that rod very well as it is a bit stiffer. I am thinking about the ML for the better casting of a light weight like this, but what kind of backbone does the rod have? I know a lot of the Rainshadow blanks run pretty stiff. None of this cover is extremely thick, I used to use a 7ft MH High Mod MHX in this application. Does anyone that has played with this blank have any advice? Would this blank be a good fit for this? Thanks! Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: September 04, 2015 03:56PM
Is that complete Did you figure the weight of the 7" plastic bait
If you call Batson They will gladly answer any questions Very good product Or Just wait Bill - willierods.com Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2015 04:02PM by bill boettcher. Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
Cameron Johnson
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Date: September 04, 2015 08:22PM
I do not know the actual weight of the bait, but I know that on the medium it is not enough to properly load the rod when casting. That is why I was thinking about stepping down to the ML. I should give them a call though you are right thanks! Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2015 08:23PM by Cameron Johnson. Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
Jay Dubay
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Date: September 05, 2015 03:28AM
As bill said Not enough information, Take your worm bait, with hook, trailer,? etc, And weigh them somewhere if you don't have a scale. Or buy a cheap digital gram scale, 28 gram per ounce. What line # are you using? mono-or braid? You will be asked this when you call. And keep in mind that rod blanks don't know what there made for. Meaning a casting blank can build into a fine spinning rod, And a spinning blank can build into a fine casting rod, That will open up a larger selection of blanks to fit the purpose you desire, if you follow me? Tight Lines! Jaa Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: September 05, 2015 04:44AM
Maybe you can find info online about it Or some one here has fished them and knows Bill - willierods.com Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
David Baylor
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Date: September 05, 2015 06:42AM
I don't have any experience with either the Immortal 72M or 73ML blanks, but I do have experience with the Immortal 72MH blank, which is why I find it interesting that you say the 72M doesn't load well enough with the weight and bait combination that you mentioned. My reason for saying that is, I routinely use that size bait and weight combination with the rod I built using the 72MH blank, and find that it's more than heavy enough to make 30' pitches to laydowns with little effort. You're talking about a bait/weight combination that is approaching 3/8 oz. with most 7" worms.
Instead of going to a lighter powered blank, perhaps setting your reel up differently would help with your presentation? It's just a thought. With that said, looking at the dimensions of the blanks may give you a hint as to how one blank may perform, versus the other. Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: September 05, 2015 09:44AM
David, I think you may be misinterpreting what is meant here by "not loading well enough." I believe he means that the rod is too powerful for the light weight he is casting so he is looking for a less powerful option. He's casting, not pitching, I believe. Cameron, can you clarify? Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: September 05, 2015 10:17AM
You can try a heaver weight on your rig Simple way add some split shot to see if that helps to load better Bill - willierods.com Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
Donald R Campbell
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Date: September 05, 2015 10:25AM
Cameron,
I would recommend you give Batson a call or send an email with your question. They are very helpful and can address your questions. IMHO the Eternity 2 blanks are outstanding! Don Campbell don@sensorfishingrods.com Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
Cameron Johnson
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Date: September 05, 2015 11:46AM
Right, the medium is to stiff to cast well with that weight. All I really want to know is does the blank feel like it has enough back bone to pull a bass out of light to moderately heavy cover on 15lb fluoro? Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: September 05, 2015 08:38PM
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The blank is rated to 17 lb test and 5/8th lure. The tip is 5.5, so there is no reason why this blank would not really excel for what you want to do with it. Be safe Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
Cameron Johnson
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Date: September 05, 2015 10:25PM
Awesome thanks! Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
Spencer Phipps
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Date: September 06, 2015 10:22AM
You could also ask Batson about the 6 ft 8 inch version, same power rating as your 72M but with a slimmer tip that may mean a faster tip that will throw into your weight specs, and have the same butt power as your rod. Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
David Baylor
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Date: September 07, 2015 09:41AM
I don't feel I misinterpreted the OP's meaning by my comments in my first post. Pitching is nothing more than a lower energy form of casting, and to do it well, requires a rod with a tip that will load with the amount of weight being used. I guess I just feel that if a blank will pitch the described bait/weight combination well, then it would most certainly cast that same combination just as well. At least my personal experience with the 72MH blank, would prove that to be true. The rod I mentioned casts the OP's described weight/bait combination, very well.
With that said, without any CCS numbers to back it up, my thinking on looking at blank dimensions to judge blank characteristics, mirrors that of Spencer's. Assuming all things equal, the smaller tip on the 68M should mean a more responsive tip, that will load more easily with lighter weights. And, assuming the blanks have a linear taper, the taper of the 68M and 72M blanks are virtually identical, so it should have the same power curve as the 72M blank. On the other hand, while the 72M and 73ML blanks have the same diameter tip, the 73ML blank has a slower taper, and a difference in butt diameter of .070" or roughly 14% smaller than that of the 72M. I'd consider the preceding to mean that the 73ML blank will load more easily, but that it will have a noticeable difference in power. Considering that OP will be using this rod to, "pull a bass out of light to moderately heavy cover" with 15# test line, the 68M may be a better choice. He'll lose a little in casting distance and long range hook setting ability with the shorter rod, but the additional power should be more than enough to make up for any loss related to rod length. For me personally, and it may be considered old school thinking, but medium light power rods are best left to sparse cover, or open water. Re: Immortal 7'3 ML Casting Blank
Posted by:
Ryan McBride
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Date: September 18, 2015 11:21AM
We are just a phone call or email away! :) You just have to make the first move ;) R. McBride Batson Enterprises BatsonEnterprises.com | RainShadowRodBlanks.com | ALPSForeCast.com | Build2Fish.com Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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