I am trying to find a spool of alternating orange and black wrapping thread, size A-D. I am restoring a 50's era rod for a client and cannot locate this combo. I don't know the thread brand but I measured the pattern and it repeats 18" orange and 8" black. Any help or guidance is appreciated.
Frank Budo

look anything like this
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Bill - willierods.com

Are you sure the rod was not wrapped with two different spools of thread, I have never seen a spool that had 18" of orange and 8" of black. Most of the variegated spools have equal amounts of orange and black twisted together.

Frank,

It's possible that Dennis Danku may have some. He sent me the remnants of a 50 yd spool in that combo in size D when I was in need of another shade of orange in NCP, and he had just what I was looking for. Mine appears to alternate between about 1' black and 3' orange. If you can't find it elsewhere, you are welcome to mine. The only issue is that I can't guarantee that there is enough to do a complete rod, because I have no idea how much is left on the spool.

Joe

Bill,
It's not that style. Just alternating colors. I have what you suggested.
Thanks

I thought that at first but after deconstruction I observed what I described. This rod may be even older than described to me!

Frank
I may have just the vintage thread you are looking for. I will have to try to locate it tomorrow and let you know!
Rog

Frank
I have located the orange / black thread and it differs slightly from what you are looking for. I have 2 full small (50yd. ?) wood spools marked size D, but the repeating pattern is 36" bright orange and 8" black. I also have a large wood spool (unmarked) of what seems to be size D with a repeating pattern of 18" orange and 24" black. If either of these will help email me.
Rog

Sounds like the two drifferent colors of thread used So many turns of orange then black added may be that simple Got a picture of a wrap

Bill - willierods.com

Boy, I thought I had seen it all when it comes to rod winding thread. Never seen any like that in over 40 years. Live and learn!!

I'm sorry I can't help you with that color and pattern. Just so you know, Gudebrods term for that pattern is "space dye" and it comes in many combos of colors and space lengths. Other thread companys made "space dye" thread too but, only Gudebrod labeled it on their boxes as such.
Space dye'd thread is not as care free as varigated thread to wrap with because as the diameter of the blank becomes smaller, your pattern now becomes bolder. Also because of the spacing, you'll have to trial and error your guide wraps for balance of the spacing too.

Dennis J. Danku
(Sayreville,NJ)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/25/2015 06:15PM by Dennis Danku.

G'Day Frank If you have a look in a couple of retailers that handle embroidery thread you may find some .I use embroidery thread for everything & I have some variegated /space dyed thread, unfortunately none in orange / black . If you find some & decide to use it it is imperative to use CP or you could run into problems & as Denis pointed it is time consuming trying to repeat the pattern as the blank diameter reduces .If 1 of my customers requests a colour that is variegated I tell them it will cost more unless they are happy to take it as it comes of the spools

Regards Baz

Bundeena
NSW Australia

Dennis,

Good to know. I did find the spool of space dyed thread really interesting.

Joe

Roger,
I sent you a email. Let me know if you did not get it.
Frank

Barry Chapman Wrote:
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> G'Day Frank If you have a look in a couple of
> retailers that handle embroidery thread you may
> find some .I use embroidery thread for everything
> & I have some variegated /space dyed thread,
> unfortunately none in orange / black . If you find
> some & decide to use it it is imperative to use CP
> or you could run into problems & as Denis pointed
> it is time consuming trying to repeat the pattern
> as the blank diameter reduces .If 1 of my
> customers requests a colour that is variegated I
> tell them it will cost more unless they are happy
> to take it as it comes of the spools

I had heard that embroidery thread had chemicals that interfered with the wrap coatings. What is your experience with them, because that would sure simplify my thread selection process.

G'Day John I use embroidery threads for all my wrapping & have never had a problem in the 8 years iv'e been using them. The problem is with the silicon that is impregnated in the thread to make it run through the high speed embroidery machines . I always use CP on my threads & not once have I had a problem .The breaking strain is slightly lower than the A thread but it is only a couple of decimal points lower than the A thread .A couple of years ago the late Col Chasling & I sat down & measured the breaking strain & stretch of all the different brands in out collections using a sample of 10 spools of each & then averaged each brand out . I have the results on an Excel spreadsheet if you want a copy.

Regards Baz

Bundeena
NSW Australia

Frank, I have that thread in stock. It is from back in the 70's. I have size E, and the color leinghts are 24 inch black, 14 inch orange. If this will help you let me know. E.P.