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NCP Tratament
Posted by: Eliseu Cherene (---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: July 21, 2015 10:43AM

What is used in lines to make them as NCP?
I ask before the effective use of them

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Donald R Campbell (---.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 21, 2015 02:27PM

Eliseu Cherene Wrote:
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> What is used in lines to make them as NCP?
> I ask before the effective use of them

If I understand your question correctly, There is nothing used to make NCP "lines", (thread), non-color preserved. Colorfast threads are treated, I believe, with something to make them less likely to change color when epoxy is applied. However, NCP thread is just that ....Non Color Preserved. NCP Thread will darken or become more transparent when epoxy is applied. Hopefully this will be helpful, if I understood your question correctly.

Don Campbell
don@sensorfishingrods.com

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Lynn Behler (---.102.204.190.res-cmts.t132.ptd.net)
Date: July 21, 2015 02:59PM

Ncp thread is designed to retain it's spool color when epoxy is applied without the use of color preserver. ( Ncp= no color preserver.) Regular threads will darken or go transparent if epoxied over without using color preserver.

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 21, 2015 04:58PM

For a nicer color use Regular nylon thread and 2 - 3 coats of CP Then finish You will come out with a nicer looking wrap
With NCP thread I still use at least one good coat of CP just to fill the thread and get rid of any air in the thread which can cause bubbles to form in the finish which requires heating the finish to get rid of them

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net)
Date: July 21, 2015 05:43PM

If I am not mistaken, NCP thread is regular nylon thread that has been treated with a type of chalk or talcum powder thus it's flat color appearence

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: July 21, 2015 05:58PM

Ray, you are correct it is a chalk like substance.! I believe the original question was, (paraphrased) what is used to make them NCP?

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Garry Thornton (---.relaybm.bell.ca)
Date: July 21, 2015 09:16PM

I have read that not using CP causes bubbles, several times on this board. I do not find this to be so.
Perhaps the authors are mistaken because they get bubbles in their nylon thread without CP.
I also do not find the NCP thread color to be dull, once the finish is applied..
Perhaps those who use nylon and CP are mistaken because they don't use actually use NCP thread.

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: July 21, 2015 09:58PM

NCP doesn't have the sparkle that regular nylon thread has, with or without CP. It appears more like paint..

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Eliseu Cherene (---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: July 22, 2015 05:08AM

Thanks to friends who responded. It helped me a lot, but would like to search further and find out if is to become an Thread NCP

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Eliseu Cherene (---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: July 22, 2015 06:15AM

Analyzing some materials come to the conclusion that glue powder used in wallpapers can work. What do you think?

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: July 22, 2015 07:58AM

Are you talking about making your own color preserver? The acrylic products on the market have proven to be about as good as it gets. Unless you simply do not have access to one of these current products, it makes little sense to go to the time and trouble to make your own.

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: Eliseu Cherene (---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: July 22, 2015 09:35AM

In Brazil there is much difficulty NCP lines. So I think to find out what is used to seal the line without without color preserver used nortmalmente.

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Re: NCP Tratament
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: July 22, 2015 10:32AM

Eliseu,
Actually, technically there is no reason to ever use CP or thread sealer if you don't choose to use the product. By using finish correctly, it is easy to get perfect bubble free finishes on any thread that is used to wrap on guides without the use of a sealer on the thread.

Perhaps the thread will change color more than you might like with no CP on the thread; but then, one can always use a lighter colored thread to wrap on the guides before applying finish to obtain the desired final color.

The epoxy finish that is commonly used to coat the thread wraps on guides does an excellent job of "sealing" the thread as it is applied.

Be safe

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