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Looking for info
Posted by: Mike Ortega (104.129.194.---)
Date: April 28, 2015 04:09PM

Anyone know what guides are used on Abu Garcia Villian spinning rods? Their website shows titanium/Ti... I spoke with someone at Abu and they wouldnt tell me what guides they are.

Thanks For any help.

-Mike

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 28, 2015 04:37PM

Titanium alloy guides with Ti inserts allow for a super lightweight guide giving the ultimate in rod performance
I did not see on a lot of discriptions the name FUJI if they were I am sure they would have Fuji's name They are the best -- Unless there is a better

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: April 28, 2015 05:27PM

You could buy one of their rods, then cut the guides off and do a forensic examination of the guides so you would know for sure.

You can often look carefully at a guide, or in a store, take several pictures of guides on a rod and then do market comparisons of your pictures to actual guides.

Be safe

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: Joe Vanfossen (---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: April 28, 2015 05:35PM

Mike,

I think Abu Garcia tends to use proprietary guides made specifically for them.

Joe

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 28, 2015 05:35PM

Or just build a rod and put the guides you want on it

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: Mike Ortega (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 28, 2015 06:25PM

I have a friend that broke a guide on his Villian rod, im trying to fix it for him, just not sure what guide it is.

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: Mike Ortega (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 28, 2015 06:29PM

The Veritas 2.0 rod shows "titanium/SIC" guides, so im gonna assume those are Fuji. But, maybe the titanium/Ti are proprietary for Abu??

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: April 28, 2015 07:53PM

Mike,
When you get the rod to repair, just look at the guides on the rod and find one that looks similar.

Be safe

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 29, 2015 08:59AM

Take the guide off If Fuji there should be a stamp on it

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: Mike Ortega (104.129.194.---)
Date: April 29, 2015 03:06PM

thanks for the help and suggestions. I dont see any manufacturer that makes a Titanium/Ti guide??

-Mike

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: Ryan McBride (---.wavecable.com)
Date: April 29, 2015 03:13PM

of course we do!! we make some of the best out there plus they are fairly inexpensive compared to the competitors! [alpsforecast.com]
If you want, we can develop a mini guide concept style system for your rod!

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: Geoff Staples (---.olypen.com)
Date: April 29, 2015 06:34PM

Mr. Ortega,
There are several rod manufacturers overseas that use guides featuring custom ring / frame material and/or ring / frame finishes. We have seen several examples on the market where ring materials are described as titanium giving the impression that the ring material is solid titanium or titanium alloy, when in fact the rings are stainless steel or ceramic that have been coated with titanium based PVD or possibly DLC coatings.
I would imagine that a solid titanium ring (not titanium oxide which is a ceramic) would be too soft to make for a durable ring. Possibly a solid titanium ring made from one of the more exotic Ti alloys would work but I imagine you would pay a pretty penny for them, and by exotic I mean something other than Ti 6-4 which makes up the vast majority of alloyed titanium used globally.
I have looked at a photo of the Abu Garcia rod in question and was not able to determine the manufacturer due to the generic frame shape. I will say that they don't appear to be our guides.

-The Batson TEAM
BatsonEnterprises.com

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 29, 2015 07:07PM

Do what Roger has said Find a guide that looks like it and -- just replace it
Then go fishing

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Looking for info
Posted by: Mike Ortega (---.clppva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 03, 2015 09:14PM

Thanks for all the replies. I'll keep looking around and see if I can find the source for the guides, if not I'll suggest using the closest match I can find ( hard to do with pictures).

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