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Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
Glenn McMurrian
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Date: March 22, 2015 02:33PM
I have a 7.0 Batson and I would like to trim it down to a 6.2 so is this to much of a trim to take off. Glenn McMurrian Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
Joe Vanfossen
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Date: March 22, 2015 02:42PM
Not if it results in the length, action and power you are looking for. A 10" trim on a 7' blank is pretty significant, but if that is what you need to do to find the blank you need, then go for it. If you are just chopping the blank to get to a specific length, then starting with a 6'6" blank might be a better choice.
Joe Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 22, 2015 03:02PM
10" a lot The power of the rod will be a HECK of a lot less taken from the butt
Put the rod aside and find one that fits your needs or with less trimming Bill - willierods.com Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
Glenn McMurrian
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Date: March 22, 2015 03:28PM
Thanks guys I was kind of Lerry myself on trimming that much off a blank. Glenn McMurrian Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 22, 2015 03:31PM
batson makes good blanks it would be a shame to cut that one I am sure you can find one to fit What ever you are looking for - fish - lure weight
Just wondering is that a bass blank ? Bill - willierods.com Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
Marc Morrone
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Date: March 22, 2015 05:20PM
Ream the handle, slide it in place as if the blank was trimmed, and see how it feels. I have some blanks I cut a full foot off to get the feel I want. Thanks - Marc Keep it simple - that's all I can handle! Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 22, 2015 05:37PM
Marc
What were they before you cut and then what were they after Got to be a large difference in lure and action Bill - willierods.com Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
Donald Becker
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Date: March 22, 2015 06:34PM
Did anyone bother to call Batson?
Don Don Becker Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
Thomas Kaufmann
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Date: March 22, 2015 06:34PM
Glenn,
If possible see if you can get a hold of a suitable 6 footer and do a short extension that can be easily hid by the handle or as previously suggested, trim a 6'6". What action are you looking for in a 6.2? I've got a decent selection of Castaways left from Lance that may work for you. I've also got some 6 footers that are old All Stars that I got from Bingham. Thanks, Tom Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 22, 2015 06:45PM
Batson has many 6'2 blanks
What are you looking for Bill - willierods.com Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
Marc Morrone
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Date: March 22, 2015 09:39PM
Hey Bill - I have trimmed 6' Spin Jig blanks to 5' to make some short, lite rods with more back bone, and a lot of other mod's when needed. If you can't find what you want, some great truly custom rods can be made by trimming and custom tuning.
Agree - they do change a lot when you take that much off, but when I do that type of trimming I am usually trying to create some thing different. Thanks - Marc Keep it simple - that's all I can handle! Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2015 09:43PM by Marc Morrone. Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 23, 2015 08:53AM
Marc
Do you CCS the blank before you cut to see what you might come out with Bill - willierods.com Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
John E Powell
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Date: March 23, 2015 10:03AM
Glenn,
It can be somewhat instructive to actually mount the grips and reel seat in the location you want to try. If this is going to be for yourself and you don't mind if the rod breaks some day down the road, and you're happy with the power and action, then go ahead. I would not however take this much off a rod for a customer. You will likely force the blank to flex in areas to an extent that the mfg hasn't engineered into the rod. I high stick by a customer would have a much greater chance of resulting in a failure. Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 23, 2015 11:25AM
Glenn,
Depending on the blank, trimming the 6 inches to a foot off the blank, could give you the perfect blank that you need. In many rod and blank designs, the tip and front section is essentially the same for an entire blank line up. Then, the difference between a 5,6 and 7 foot rod, is essentially that the butt section of the blank has simply been extended by the manufacturer. This is very simple to check, if one gets a sample of each of the different blanks in the various lengths. Line up the tips of the rod, and then use a caliper to measure the diameter of each blank at the same station or distance from the tip on each blank. If the diameters of the blank are identical starting from the tip and going toward the butt of the rod, this technique has been used by the manufacturer to achieve similar tip actions with different butt lengths. If that is the case, one can pretty much trim as much as one wants off the butt of the rod blank and know that one will then essentially have the equivalent of the manufacturers same blank in the shorter length. For rods that have a certain tip speed, or degree of tip movement for extreme light biting fish- I only trim from the tip of a blank with very great reluctance and with extreme care. Often, if one trims from the tip of this sort of soft tipped blank, the trimming of 1/4 inch off the tip can change the rod quite a bit. So, if you want to trim the rod, then by all means trim the rod. But, just remember, that once you trim the blank, the change is permanent, no going back. So, if you want to trim from the butt, tape up the rods components with the grip and reel seat in the new position. If you want to trim from the tip, just put a guide at that location and try fishing with the rod, with the guide at that position, before actually cutting the tip. By taping up the components in the newly desired position and actually using the rod with the components in that position, one will know if the planned blank changes will give the desired changes to the blank. Any time that you trim - proceed cautiously - knowing that once cut, the change is permanent. Good luck Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
John E Powell
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Date: March 23, 2015 12:12PM
Roger,
If he was to get all the different sizes to compare against each other, then he would not have to cut the blank in the first place. He could just select the 6' model. After attending the St. Croix talk this year at the ICRBE, I don't think it's all that common for mfg to get two to three models from a single mandrel. Back in the day it probably was a more common practice as more of the blanks tended to be moderate actions and you could somewhat maintain the action by planned judicious trimming. Given blank technology has advanced light years since those days and mfg are pushing every blank to be the best they can be in a very competitive market with a very limited audience, I just don't think it's all that common a practice anymore. Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: March 23, 2015 12:26PM
That does make sense !
just meassure twice and ( hopfuly ) cut once Seems most are for marking and test casting Bill - willierods.com Re: Trimming a blank right or wrong
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: March 23, 2015 01:37PM
John,
I really completely agree with your statement. Blanks with the appropriate length and action are generally readily available at any price point, so generally there is little reason to trim a blank. Take care Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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