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Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Tom Lusis
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Date: November 16, 2014 08:59AM
Hi all. I was hoping to get some input on something.
A couple of days ago my brother-in law and I were float fishing for steelhead. The temperature was in the zero (or just below) range. My rod had size six Alconites for the running guides, his size size Minimas. Both were fly gulde style. He was having problems with ice in the guides, I had none. We were trying to figure out if the Minimas were more likely to get ice build up because of their metal rings as opposed to the ceramic Alconites? Anybody else notice this? thanks Tom. Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
billy brodrick
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Date: November 16, 2014 09:32AM
Tom,
The ceramics being black will tend to hold some solar heat which will tend to keep them some what warm enough to melt some of the ice. My winter fishing customers by far though prefer recoil guides. The tend to bend slightly which flicks the ice off. If you don't get that lucky its a matter of a quick bend of the guide and your back to work. I have tried minimas myself in the winter and solid ice. Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Dave Gallenberger
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Date: November 16, 2014 10:28AM
Wow, I've never thought of how easily the Recoils would shed ice. I do a lot of winter fishing, and iced up guides have always been an annoyance. Thanks for the tip! Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
billy brodrick
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Date: November 16, 2014 10:58AM
no problem dave. They really work well for ice rods and for my steelhead guys. I lived in Alaska for a few years and guiding winter was my time to fish. I learned a lot about iceing lol Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Tom Lusis
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Date: November 16, 2014 12:41PM
Thanks for the input.
Bill, what style of running guides do you use? I'm thinking of building a spiral wrap bait caster for float fishing but am hesitant on using the fly style guides as they sit so close to the blank. I built another float rod with that style fly guides -but not recoils - and found that the line would tack to the blank in wet weather. Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
billy brodrick
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Date: November 16, 2014 02:15PM
Tom they make a casting guide. For sure you should look at them. Super light weight and tough as heck. Also the black recoil is a bonus for sun and heat retention. It is bonus to have a guide that will not corrode in ANY environment and is able to bend to any shape and return to it's original shape. Great to use in ice conditions. Also almost entirely all I use for fly rods these days. Mostly single foot but some snakes depending on the customer. I really don't like there tip tops except in the winter. I usually will switch back on forth on my rods using a fugi tip until winter weather then switch off the tip for a recoil. Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Rolly Beenen
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Date: November 16, 2014 02:25PM
Janns flex lites also work well for less money then the recoil guides. Rolly Beenen Rovic Custom Rods Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
billy brodrick
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Date: November 16, 2014 02:57PM
rolly titanium alloy tat flex and return to shape? never used them. Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Rolly Beenen
(---.ontariopowergeneration.com)
Date: November 17, 2014 10:13AM
Have had no problems yet Rolly Beenen Rovic Custom Rods Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Gary Kilmartin
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Date: November 17, 2014 03:21PM
Don't know if it's been discussed here, but I use paste wax on my guides for winter trout trips. It doesn't prevent icing, but, a quick knuckle rap just above the reel seat will knock the ice off most of the time. Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Ryan McBride
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Date: November 17, 2014 03:25PM
hmmmm.. interesting.. Have you looked into this?? [alpsforecast.com]
Ice, Bass, and everything freshwater, etc.. You get the picture. Its a nano ceramic coating that thus far has not have any problem with icing up!! Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: November 17, 2014 04:42PM
When the wife is not cooking grab the Pam and spray the guides Bill - willierods.com Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: November 17, 2014 06:50PM
X10 on Bill's comments.
Keep a can of Pam in your pocket and before starting to fish spray the guides with Pam. Then, as the day goes by, spray again. Pam on - ice off. Be safe Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Kris Wierzbicki
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Date: November 20, 2014 06:46AM
Hi Bill.
Could I ask what Pam is? Is it like an oil. I don't know if we have it here in Australia. Thanks Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: November 20, 2014 07:34AM
Kris,
It is just cooking oil that is normally sprayed onto the bottom of a cooking pan to prevent food from sticking to the bottom of the cooking or frying pan. [www.pamcookingspray.com] [pascoes.freshdesk.com] Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
rick sodke
(---.vc.shawcable.net)
Date: November 20, 2014 10:38AM
Yup. Minimas with no ring ice up way more than any insert. It could be because the insert is slippery and rejects water. Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Tim Allard
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Date: December 11, 2014 09:38PM
It could be because metal is a better conductor than ceramics so cools down much quicker?
Tim Re: Alconites vs Minimas: Icing up in cold conditions?
Posted by:
Steven Paris
(---.dsl.louisacomm.net)
Date: December 29, 2014 12:40PM
Pam has not worked well for me. Maybe I don't apply it often enough. Do the Janns Flex lite guides flex and spring back like the REC guides?
thanks Steve Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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