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Bleed Thru Question
Posted by: Dave Loren (---.prvdri.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 05, 2014 05:52PM

Ok, Why does the finish coat bleed thru to rod even when using CP ?

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Re: Bleed Thru Question
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: September 05, 2014 06:44PM

Did you use At Least Two Coats of CP and what kind of CP

And Let it dry overnight -- Then finish

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Bleed Thru Question
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: September 05, 2014 10:09PM

There are a number of reasons.

1. Thinning of CP with water or alcohol.
2. Inadequate thread packing.
3. Using very light thread over a very dark blank.

Plus a few others, but these are the primary causes.

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Re: Bleed Thru Question
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: September 05, 2014 10:45PM

When you say "bleed" are you talking about the finish penetrating through the thread to the blank, or do you mean the wrap is not staying completely opaque?

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Re: Bleed Thru Question
Posted by: Dave Loren (---.prvdri.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 06, 2014 09:13AM

The brand is Flex Coat 2 coats overnight drying. No thinning of CP is being done. I feel that I'm packing quite well. Yes a rust colored thread over a very dark blank. Yes the finish is going thru the threads to the blank leaving dark spots in that area. I am puzzled due to that this is the first time this has happened for me. Where is that fine line between to much thread tension and not enough for packing threads?

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Re: Bleed Thru Question
Posted by: Chester Kiekhafer (---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: September 06, 2014 12:29PM

It could be inadequate drying of the CP. You didn't say how long you let the CP dry nor how many coat you do.

For me I do three coats of CP with about two hours dry time between 1 and 2 and then 2 and 3, then after the last coat I let it dry over night.

Chester

May your line be tight and your beverages be cold!

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Re: Bleed Thru Question
Posted by: Pat Barnard (---.kw.tx.cebridge.net)
Date: September 06, 2014 02:25PM

Had the same thing happen to me as well last week. I have been building for ~25 years and have never had this issue. Packed tight, clean hands, FC color preserver. When I placed the finish on had spots and dark lines in the thread appear. Cut off wrap and did in NCP due to time constraints for rod. The thread was Gudebrod A regular. Has to be bad CP or the thread is contaminated.

Pat Barnard

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Re: Bleed Thru Question
Posted by: Dave Loren (---.prvdri.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 06, 2014 04:15PM

Well the build i'm doing now I'm not going to CP it. Let's see what happens. I CP all my wraps so this will be a new experiment.

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Re: Bleed Thru Question
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: September 06, 2014 06:24PM

Dave,
Great idea.
I really prefer the use of nylon thread with no cp and finish applied. I just like the semi transparent look that one gets with finish applied this way.

I only use CP, or NCP thread if there is a particular customer request for the look.

Be safe

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