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Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: Michael Terrasi (---.partners.org)
Date: August 26, 2014 06:56AM

Hello Everyone,

I have a friend who would like me to refinish his old fishing rod. The rod was custom made for his father in the 80s and now the guide wraps are starting to chip. Since it has sentimental value he does not want to replace the guide wraps but instead wants to reseal them. I know that the threads are sealed with Urathane, such as U40 Perma Gloss, but not 100% sure what brand. Can I clean up the chipped spots and reapply Perma Gloss over the old urathane or do I have to take the guides off and rewrap the guides? My first thought was to fully clean the threads and then reapply over the old urathane but I am not sure the new Perma gloss will adhere to the old Urathane.

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 26, 2014 09:39AM

Clean them and lightly scuff with fine Scotchbrite and you should be fine to recoat. Be careful not to raise any thread "fuzz" on any bare spots, however.

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: Ross Pearson (---.dlth.qwest.net)
Date: August 26, 2014 10:34AM

A coat of color preserver before the finish coat could prevent bleed through discoloration on bare regular threads.

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: August 26, 2014 12:39PM

Did PG even exist in the 80's??
And PG goes on so thin that you will most likely get fuzzies.
Herb



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/26/2014 12:40PM by Herb Ladenheim.

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 26, 2014 01:03PM

Do you know what thread was used on this rod
Was it regular nylon -- with CP or Without CP ??
if you know the thread used you may be better to try to match the color using cp and no cp on a piece of scrap ???

Herb asks a good question -- Could that be varnish

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 26, 2014 01:04PM

Yes, it was around even a bit before then. Ralph actually developed it for use on bamboo rods, both for the cane and the threads, as an alternative to the less hard, less clear varnishes that often needed refinishing after so many seasons.

But it could just be any of the popular varnishes or lacquers available at the time.

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: August 26, 2014 04:13PM

Michael,
I recently had a similar situation and convinced the client to let me strip the guides and rewrap and recoat the guides.

I think that he found that this solution worked out very well for him.

Be safe

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: Jimmy Crain Jr (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: August 27, 2014 09:43PM

I would just tell him hey I'm going to try to add varnish to the threads and see what happens but if the coloring doesn't come out right I'm going to have to strip the rod down and rewrap it. Is this ok with you. If he says no then say you don't want the job.

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 28, 2014 05:15PM

Go with Jimmy
You could clean one wrap Clear it Show him if he does not like it Ask to rewrap If not

have a nice day

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: Jimmy Crain Jr (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: August 31, 2014 03:14AM

I have been pushed on this matter. After seeing how good new varnish looks they end up sending me more rods to refinish. Not knowing this is the easiest work in the world.

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Re: Refinishing old guide wraps
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 31, 2014 04:38PM

just make sure you get paid for the work

Ask here and try to get ideas of what to charge

Bill - willierods.com



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/31/2014 04:43PM by bill boettcher.

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